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Monday, October 5, 2020

WAYNE F. BURKE INTERVIEWS GEORGE ANDERSON 25 SEPTEMBER 2020

 


Wayne F. Burke: Your poetry brings to my mind the work of ubermench Charles Bukowski. Not so much in form, though similarities exist, but in subject matter, meaning the grittiness of the life pictured, the occasional outbreak of mayhem, and oftentimes indiscriminate violence. My question is not has Bukowski's work influenced your writing, but how big an influence has his writing been to your work?

Anderson: Charles who? Haha...yes, I've read most of Buk's stuff, but mostly in the last ten years to contribute to a few critical reviews of his work on my blog Bold Monkey. Bukowski’s Best Poetry Books is a useful example: https://georgedanderson.blogspot.com/2018/11/a-readers-appraisal-after-25-years-best.html


I first read Bukowski in New Zealand where I lived for six months before I migrated to Australia from Canada at aged 23. I read his short story collection 
Erections, Ejaculations, Exhibitions and General Tales of Ordinary Madness (City Lights Books, 1972) and a few years later his novel Women (Wild & Woolley, Sydney, 1979). The first book of poetry I read of his was BURNING IN WATER DROWNING IN FLAME (Black Sparrow Press, 1978) which is a significant volume of his new & selected poems published between 1955-1973. 

I was highly impressed by the collection but at the time I was writing fiction, including two unpublishable novels The Dispute: A Preposterous Story and Inside the Typewriter Man. As a young teacher in Western Sydney, I recall returning to Buk's poetry and incorporating 'k.o.' and 'machinegun towers & timeclocks' (from At Terror Street and Agony Way) into my Year 9 English curriculum. Years later, as a Year 11 teacher at another school, I devised a Preliminary HSC course on Bukowski's poetry, initially focussed on the theme of 'The Outsider.'


I'm probably the only high school teacher in Australia who has taught Buk in any detail. The poems we studied  over a ten year period usually included 'the tragedy of the leaves', 'spark', 'Young in New Orleans', 'Bluebird' and my personal favourites, 'Dinosauria, we' and 'The Genius of the Crowd'. I loved the subversive nature of Bukowski's writing- how he barred his ass to the establishment- both in form and subject matter. In creating the course, I was trying to expose my largely privileged students to alternative ways of thinking, of momentarily getting them to step into the shoes of a struggling artist who was far less fortunate than themselves. 

It wasn't until the shocking death of my mate Roger in 2000 from throat cancer that I decided to write down some of my ideas. As his coffin was being swallowed behind the curtain towards his cremation- I told myself that I better get some of my stuff down before I too cacked it. 

A couple of days later, I was at school supervising an exam when a poem flew out of me- raw and direct. The poem 'A View of a Friend' which appears in the collection The Rough End of the Pineapple is the first poem that I wrote:

 

Arriving at your viewing

at Palm Grove Memorial Cemetery that late June morning

you joking, only days before,

how you’d avoid the GST

if you cacked it before the 1st of July.

 

The blank, tattooed receptionist

glides us to an impressive   

gold-coloured plaque on a door which reads:

DAVID ROGER JOHNSON.

 

Roger, I didn’t know 

your first name was actually David!

 

Pushing the door open-

bewildered

stumbling before you

amazed

 

& with each step

aghast

      seeing your corpse for the first time

through the bright

but soulless room

from

      changing perspectives

of alternating light

& meaning:

 

the manufactured scent

the opulent coffin

 

you seemingly sinking 

small and insignificant within it-

 

the former hulking beast of your huge frame

a sham-

a remnant of your former boisterous Rogerness.

 

The boys reckoned you looked like a vampire 

in that silent black box-

those bucked incisors they could never fix

your dark black hair smoothly caressed

in your preferred mid 70s Elvis appropriation.

 

I couldn’t help thinking

I could poke 

my fingers

without too much effort

through your rice paper cheeks.

 

As I grieved beside you 

I tried vainly to fathom the significance 

of your death at age 48

 

working it all out-

the tragic  

stupid inevitability of it all-

 

even picturing 

the view of the room

 

the afternoon light

dancing on the western walls

& on the plastic vases of flowers

 

from the perspective 

of your depleted

 

cancerous frame.



In retrospect, the poem adopts elements that Buk may have used- free verse, lower case, experiments in enjambment- but to me it was a one off- a creative exercise in attempting to capture a key moment in my life- using what limited language skills I possessed.  

 

After writing about my friend Roger, I was on a roll for a couple of years and wrote about everything and used a variety of styles and forms. I wrote about my past in Canada & about the friends I grew up with and about my old man. I mostly wrote narrative poems in free verse using simple, unembellished language. 

 

There are about 25 poems in the collection set in Montreal, below the tracks in NDG, which recall some of my juvenile exploits in poetic form, including, ‘At the Sanair Super Speedway’, ‘The Dope Plant’, ‘First Fist Fight’, ‘Chopper’, ‘Tabarnac!’, ‘Ten O’Clock’ & others.

 

Looking back, my old man was a kind of Chinaski figure- a drunken bum but without the insane creativity. Similar to Buk, he grew up in a time of depression and world war. He was a disgraceful role model & he features in several of my poems and stories, including 'Cold Turkey', 'Frankie', 'The Police Interview' and 'Switching Off the Lights' in the collection. 


In 'Cold Turkey', a cringe-worthy but biographically accurate poem, I explore the dark depths the old man sank, following the death of his wife, my mother, aged 47:



Cold Turkey

 

One winter evening

after my mother died 

of a massive heart attack

the old man pounds

on my bedroom door

& drunkenly asks, ‘You hungry?’

 

In the kitchen

he takes a large turkey

directly from the freezer

& whacks it into the oven- 

and turns the temperature up to 450F

 

He has been drinking for two or three days.

 

As we wait for the turkey to cook 

the conversation is circular

 

every 20 minutes or so

he glances up at me and slurs-

 

‘You think you’re smart?

You don’t know fuck all!’

 

The old man sits there in his white singlet

his eyes dissolving slowly into his head

 

& later like clockwork he asks

flexing his right bicep

steeled by years of foundry work:

 

‘You think you’re tough, don’t you? Feel this!’

 

It is rock hard-

I try to crush the muscle with my soft teenage hands

I can only get them half way around.

 

He takes another drag from his Players Export cigarettes

downs another Molson

& in mid sentence nods off.

 

*

 

I set the alarm

& wake at  4 AM. 

 

As expected, the old man is crashed out-

under the kitchen table in pissed pants

snoring in a rhythmic but shaky rattle

his left arm his pillow.

 

*

 

Our huge mongrel cat 

Thomas Reef Redback

is most content for nearly a week-

 

the old man in the early mornings

flinging him

half-raw portions

from the big bird’s inner core.



I've always been attracted to writers who realistically focus on characters who live on the margins of society- Orwell, London, Steinbeck, Dostoyevsky, Kerouac. Even as a young child I loved reading the tales and adventures of the courier de bois in Canada. 


In my writing I often like to explore the thin edge between order and mayhem, when ordinarily good people drop any pretence at civility and plunge into shameful, atavistic behaviour. I first developed an interest in this concept years ago when I closely studied novels, such as HG Wells's The Island of Dr. Moreau and The First Man on the Moon, Shelley's Frankenstein and Conrad's Heart of Darkness. The poems 'Wright', 'Mad Kiwi', 'Surrey Hills on a Saturday Night', 'K.O.'  and 'My First Fist Fight' are some examples from the collection which attempt to show this arbitrary descent into chaos. 


In a belated answer to your question, who came first Bukowski or the egg? It's impossible to apportion the percentage of his influence. Being familiar with his writing certainly helped to shape the form and content of my work when I decided to record the stuff. Like any writer, I borrow from here and there and put a specific, individual spin on my ideas.


Q: Following up on my Bukowski question: the first of Sir Charles' I read, like you, was BURNING IN WATER DROWNING IN FLAME. It blew my mind in that it gave me the idea that my life--no matter how boring or dull, or full of shit I thought it--could be used as poetic material. The sense of meaningless I often felt, about myself and life in general could be given meaning through artistic creation. Who I was, what I was, had relevance. Did you feel anything similar after reading Buk? How about some other writer?

 

Anderson: Yeah, I totally agree. I remember attending a Poet's Union seminar about 20 years ago and all the academics talked about for about 2 hours was the evolving aesthetic concept of the vase in literature over the last 10,000 years or so. Although I still consider John Keats's poem 'Ode On a Grecian Urn' (1819) as one of my favourite poems of all time- I was bored shitless on the day! 

 

For Bukowski any topic is permissible, however trivial or controversial. I was first attracted to his poetry for his humour, his interesting choice of subject matter, and as I've said, how he put the boots into the establishment. I liked his cynical tone, how he incorporated dialogue into many of his poems, and especially, the improvisational feel of his writing. 

 

I wrote the poem ‘One Clear Winged Morning’ in tribute to Buk and how  he challenged cultural norms and raised a stiff finger to the elites:

 

 

One Clear Winged Morning

 

For years, I understood poetry

to be the work of flabby grey men

 

in pompous suits & ties

pouring over obscure lines

 

in heavily annotated books

mocking each other’s poetics.

 

But then one clear winged morning 

I discovered that it can be found anywhere: 

 

in the shell of a burnt out car

in the automated voice of a train guard

 

on the side of trucks or bathroom doors 

belted out in pubs or on factory floors.


(first published in The Legendary, 2009) 


The poem, was also a direct reference to some of my own material, including to 'burn out'- a 2003 broadside- which was written after a friend's car was brazenly stolen outside my house in Doonside during a party & later set alight in a nearby reserve: 

 


As you know, there is a downside to Bukowski's writing.Every wanna-be writer (like myself) now thinks they can string a sentence or 2 together and with print-on-demand publishing- they can now cheaply inflict their sexual exploits, depression or alcoholic misdeeds onto the world. 

Bukowski's estate also left him a massive target by allowing so much of his less capable work to be published posthumously through ECCO. He obviously never allowed this material to be published during his lifetime. I gently mock this overkill:  

 

Horses that Shit in the Woods Eat Sushi at Dawn

 

the skid row poet

cum multi-millionaire

 

another used condom of 

his poems recently released

 

the fourteenth since his death

the proverbial scrapping of the barrel: 

 

cigar butts, Ludwig, pussy, beer.

 

(first published in The Legendary, 2010)

 

 

Q: I view your work as that of a "descriptive" poet rather than an "introspective" one. (Not to say I find NO introspection in the work.) An "action" poet, if you will; concerned with telling a story, a narrative, rather than, or in addition to, relating feelings involved, of narrator or character/subject of the poem. Would you agree with this assessment?


Sure, I agree! In The Rough End of the Pineapple I deliberately included some of my more accessible portrait poems which use simple language and personal anecdotes to create a visual image in the head of the reader. They usually tell an external story rather than explore the inner eye. 


Over the years, I have experimented in many forms and styles- for the sake of continuity- in this book I have adopted an observational tone and a consistant authorial voice. I tend to view "introspective" poems with suspicion and often find myself gagging on revelatory verse which often provide the reader with a self-absorbed or sentimental illumination.  

 


Q: Do you feel (ha! I am putting you on the spot), that writing criticism, as in your BOLD MONKEY columns, takes away from your own work or does it feed it? Is your approach to writing criticism like that to a disliked job--something to get through? An irritant maybe? A pain in the you know what? If not, what are your feelings toward writing criticism? What does the act of doing so consist of for you? The results?

 

I started writing criticism on Bold Monkey in 2007 to help me strengthen my ability to teach my students how to write the stuff. I also used the platform to help support the small alternative press by providing reviews of poetry books which academics usually avoided. 


Early on, I got a lot of positive feedback from Wolfgang Carstens (Epic Rites Press) and RD Armstrong (Lummox Press) and many individual writers. I also tried my hand at reviewing classic texts, such as Salinger’s The Catcher in the Rye, Brautigan’s Watermelon Sugar and Steinbeck’s Travels With Charley. I saw each new book as an intricate puzzle that I had to unravel and had a lot of fun constructing my analysis. 


Later on, John D. Robinson of Holy & Intoxicated Publications (UK) and Hank Stanton of Uncollected Press (USA) were key contributors in getting me to shift my focus from critical to imaginative writing.

 

In the last couple of years, I am finding it more difficult to find the time to stay on task to complete all reviews. I usually read a book at least 5-6 times, compile notes and interview the writer to gain a greater understanding of what they are trying to achieve. I hate taking shortcuts and as other projects intercede, some reviews have had to be abandoned or have been substantially delayed. 

 

I never try to kiss the ass of the writers I review. I generally will only review books I can get into, and as you can appreciate, some books are well beyond the scope of Bold Monkey and my comprehension of poetry. Sometimes in my reviews I feel I am writing parody or hyperbole, but at its heart my thoughts are non-bullshit, genuine.


Thanks for taking the time to answer a few questions.


No worries.

Monday, March 11, 2013

FEATURING: TERENCE RISSETTO (New Zealand poet & short story writer)


It is rare for Bold Monkey to post the original, unpublished work of writers but Terence Rissetto is a new alternate voice worth reading. He is a philosophy and anthropology graduate of the University of Auckland. Rissetto’s work is characterised by its intricate word play, particularly its extensive use of pun, black humour & self parody. His poem 'The Mistress' is clever in its use of dialogue to reveal the unexpected motivations of his characters. Rissetto's short story ‘The Great Bukowski’ pays homage to the master but also attempts to kick him violently in the balls. The poem 'Dutch Courage' which follows, likens the effects of alcohol to 'a young girl’s dressing gown/ Slipping off before her shower'.

Biography 
Terence Rissetto was deprived of oxygen at birth, and immediately became an oxymoron, a lifelong ambition. His full name means “tender wise counsellor of the wild rose”, often shortened by those who meet him to “that prick”. He currently lives in New Zealand after working at a Victorian psychiatric hospital throughout the 80’s. He has never done a Masters of Creative Writing, preferring the insanity of everyday anti-psychotic life. And he insists that he has spent more time inside bars than behind them.

Terence is the author of his own misfortune. In addition, he has had poems published in Blackmail Press and Penduline Online, and short stories published in Landfall and Pikihuia, where he was a finalist in the 2011 bi-annual short story awards for Maori writers.

The Mistress

How could you forget our anniversary? Look at the meal I made for us!
It’s ruined, just like we are.

-              Honey, it’s not like you think, nothing happened.

Oh yeah? How do you explain the hair on your shirt
And the lipstick on your neck?

-Just the waitress fooling around, you know how it is.

Sure, how about the packet of condoms in your pocket
With two missing?

-              Oh um, I was looking after them for the boys, they’re not mine.

You know I’ve seen the two of you together, playing happy families? It makes me sick,
You spend more time with her than you do with me.

-              But I work with her.

I used to work with you too until you asked me to leave,
Should I go out and get a boyfriend? How would you feel?

-              Okay, how can I make it up to you?

Make love to me, now.

-              Look honey I’d love to but I’m late for work.

Make love to me or I’m gone when you come back.
This place you keep me in is like a prison anyway.

He started to protest then kissed her
Undressed her and made love to her
With a panache and passion she’d never had before.
Afterward she sat on the edge of the bed crying softly.

-              You don’t have to fight me to make up, he said.

I know you’re lying, those positions are new,

-              No they’re not, we just haven’t tried them before

So how come you didn’t come?

-              Oh, honey you know I had a tough night out with the boys last night.

Henry,  just answer me this one question,
Are you fukking your wife again or not?


This story comes with a language and subject matter warning: R rated material.


The Great Bukowski

I couldn’t believe my luck, my drinking hero, the Great Bukowski, GB, was in the same bar as me drinking with a superbly built 6 foot tall dark haired amazon, one drink short of one too many, and a mini of her, probably her daughter, semi-drunk, with breasts as big in front as her ample booty was behind.

Perfect time to show the world who was the better man. Slipping down a quick triple whiskey I lurched over to their table and announced loudly: “I want to fuk your girlfriend.”

The GB looked up disinterestedly and dismissed me without interrupting the launch of a tirade of 1000 Helen of Troy words about sluts and bitches. The amazon smiled at me lopsidedly hiking her already  short skirt higher and deliberately uncrossing and crossing her long beautiful legs at the same time as leaning forward and showing a ravine’s worth of cleavage.

I grabbed the GB’s shoulder and announced again loudly: “I want to fuk your girlfriend.”

“Fuk off,” he snarled, shaking his shoulder free of my grasp.

“I said, I want to fuk your girlfriend.”

He looked at me bleakly through meat cleaver eyes.

“Pal, you got balls coming up to me like this when I’m just chilling, chewing the fat with my friends here but I’ll give you a bit of advice. Grow a vagina and go fuk yourself.”

“I want to fuk your girlfriend.”

“So do I but she ain’t here.”

“Alright then I want to fuk your wife.”

“So do I but she’s with my girlfriend.”

“Okay then I want to fuk her,” I pointed at the amazon who smiled back with perfect teeth.
The GB slid back his chair, cursing as he spilt his drink.

“Son, she only does threesomes, can you handle that?”

“Course I can,” I said drawing myself up to full height and sucking in a deep breath as the GB sighed.

“Okay kid. Show us your pecker.”

“My what?” I stammered.

“Your pecker, woody, your love log, stars and stripes, old glory, your cock dumb muthafukka.”

“But we’re in the middle of a bar.”

“Didn’t stop you coming up to me and yelling out you want to fuk my friend here.”

I was too far gone to sober up now and after some fumbling for time I dropped my trousers and flopped flipper’s flapper out.

“Okay,” said the GB, “Stop fukking around. Where’s the rest of it?”

“What do you mean?”

“That all you got? Muthafukka! She’s got a bigger one than that!” he pointed to the mini amazon who smiled sympathetically at me.

“It’s cold in here,” I protested, “besides my cock’s like bog, it expands with moisture to fill any hole it’s put in.”

“I bet,” the GB said sarcastically, “especially arseholes like yourself. You reckon you could fuk these two with a chicken kebab like that? Try one of these instead.”

He flopped out a pecker that looked like a giant three foot long purple salami as ugly and ribbed as his pitted face, and slammed it down on the table.

“Now that’s what you call a pecker. I can slide little Miss Missy up and down between her pussy lips from behind and still have enough nine yards to stuff it into Chartreuse here’s wet pussy while drinking a flagon of port with one hand. They don’t call me the GB for nothing. You still game son? Can you do that with a threesome?”

“A threesome?” There seemed to be a hidden meaning in the way he said the words.

“Yep, I’m the third. The three of us all at once or I can do you alone if you want.”

“I don’t like being fukked in the arse or vice versa,” I was adamant.

“You got it. I don’t like fukken arseholes either and you gotta be one of the biggest I’ve come across, so to speak.  Why don’t you crawl back to the shithole where you came from”

The amazon interjected, “Leave him alone Henry.  You’re being too hard on him. He’s just a kid and he is kinda cute looking. I’d do him for $100.”

The GB looked at her interestedly.

“Really?   Your lucky day arsehole. Tell you what, give me $175 and you can have both of them for half an hour, hope your wallet’s bigger than your pecker. Buy me a whiskey while you’re at it and a pitcher of beer.”  

He looked at his watch.

“Be back in an hour or I’ll find you and kill you with your own pecker.  Pucker up son you’re going to get your arse screwed off. Be gentle ladies, Daddy loves you!” He blew them both an ironic kiss.

The three of us staggered across the road to a rundown motel with orange candlewick bedspreads and faulty air conditioning.  I poured us a round of stiff drinks and the amazon hugged me hard and took off her top, one squeeze confirming that her tits were real. Hell, i lov yah. 

The mini bar squeezed my buttocks tightly while burying her face in the front, her efforts doubling the length and breadth of my kebab.  The GB, what an arsehole! Considering the size of his pecker the amazon was a surprisingly tight fit. Mini helped guide me in, holding my cock from behind, massaging my balls and rubbing her soft breasts against my back.  At some point she put a well lubricated finger in my arse which magically prompted a frenetic heavy metal hard horn unison threesome until bang on the half hour mark we all came together in a great melting pot big enough to take the world and all it’s got.  As a bonus, Mini’s ministrations meant I was no longer constipated. I felt good. Going by the shrieks of laughter from the girls as they showered together, I had shown the GB a thing or two.

He was waiting at the same table when we got back, belligerent amongst several empty pitchers of beer and ripped up racing guides.

“How’d you go arsehole?” He greeted me with a knowing leer, holding out his hand for the money.

“Finally lose your cherry?”

“Actually it was incredible if I say so myself especially once I got past the used bits it was come home to papa.  Can’t wait to tell everyone I fukked the GB’s girlfriends.  What you got to say about that muthafukka?”  I slapped him a one armed fist salute.

The GB opened his mouth to speak and the amazon shook her gorgeous head imploringly, leaning over to kiss him on the lips and rub her breasts against him. He pushed her away and put his hand up under Mini’s skirt and a finger in her panties.

“Glad to see you have a sense of humour son.  Tell you what, I’m a betting man as you probably know, and I’ll bet you triple to nothing that I can show you something so incredible that you will never forget it.  I guarantee what you’ve just been through will pale into insignificance.”

“What do I have to do in return?” I was slightly suspicious but still on a high that would be hard to match, let alone beat.

“Nothing. Sweet FA.  Is it a deal?”  He tongue kissed Mini and looked back for my response, knowing he had me sucked in.

I looked at amazon. She shook her pretty little head at me vigorously.

“Okay, deal.”

With a magician’s flourish the GB lifted up Mini’s skirt and at the same time whipped down her panties revealing a somewhat guilty looking youth sized penis underneath.

“Voila arsehole! Meet your cherry picker plucker!”

I was dumbfounded. I’d assumed Mini’d been using her thumb and shook my head in disbelief. The GB mistook my silence for resistance.

“Not enough? Chartreuse? Your piece de resistance, s’il vousplait!”

Slowly, agonisingly, Chartreuse slid down exquisite panties over equally exquisite olive buttocks and tantalising thighs and bent over so that I caught a quick glimpse of the scrotum tucked discreetly out of sight.

“But, but you came with me,” I stammered as she quietly shamefully pulled herself together again.

The GB howled with laughter at the sight and my plight.  

“Ah, the sweet whiff of true love! Meet my Puerto Rican brothers fukhead. I was just telling them I don’t do boys when you interrupted us and insisted on being an arsehole.  Takes one to know one muthafukka! Buy the bar some drinks and give the ladies their money.”

Amazon perked up at the words and came over to sit on my knee. Her breasts were truly magnificent.  She gave me a spine tingling buttock clenching tongue kiss and whispered in my ear in a husky voice.

“He’s a mean old man, not like you. I’d like to get to know you better lover boy, where you from? You married?”

Before I could answer a soft feminine voice said above the noise.

“What’s going on here?”

I turned around and looked into the deepest blue eyes I’d ever seen. They belonged to a 300 lb whore with construction worker arms in her 60’s who had obviously seen better days and fuller quart bottles of whiskey.  The GB kissed her warmly and introduced her as his  girlfriend , someone not to mess around with.

“This arsehole here says he wants to fuk you honey,” he announced loudly.



Dutch Courage

When I drink alcohol
It filters gently down through my veins
Like mist over a waterfall
Like a young girl’s dressing gown
Slipping off before her shower
Its warm hands slide down
Until they clasp my balls
And stay there until needed
Filing fingernails, sunbathing
waiting to be summoned
like a eunuch’s harem.

When it’s time they unlimber
And crank up the apparatus
like a Crimean gun carriage
Or a Spanish man ‘o war
Gun powder & shot, a little perfume
ready to be uncoiled & pummeled 
in suburbia subversia.

And so here we are
I like the colour of your eyes
And the shape of your breasts
and the way the alcohol
filters down through our veins.



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