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Tuesday, June 12, 2018

Book Review/ Interview: Catfish McDaris. 27 Hammerheads Circling Ever Closer. Pski's Porch, 2018 (318 pages)


This is an amazing, mind-blowing anthology of Catfish McDaris’s new, old and collected writing over an unspecified number of years. It includes more than a hundred poems, eleven pieces of flash fiction and three extended short stories “Naked Serial Killers in Volkswagens”, “Cocaine Nipples” and “The Painter”- which comprise roughly half the book.

The poetry is characteristically free verse and narrative in form. The poems usually sit comfortably on one page and most are about twenty lines in length. The poetry is extremely varied in subject matter and full of surprizes for the adventurous small press reader. You never know what to expect from one page to the next to the page after that. A prose poem sex romp, and poems about Billy the Kid, Van Gogh and Hendrix appear within a few pages of the book’s opening. The poems move from first to third person, from anecdotal social realism to the surreal or the supernatural or the absurd. The poems often feature a man known as ‘the Spaniard’ and his exploits are told with good humour, wit and exuberance. McDaris’s language is full of inventive word play and explicit sexual and drug references. 


The poem “Blue Desperado” on page 2 provides us with an early morsel of what to expect:

Blue Desperado

Apacho Comancho could hear a fly
fart in a hurricane, when he strutted
down the avenue all the vaginas
palpitated pulsated and pounded

Apacho was the motherfucking cats
meow, Mr. Love ‘em and Leave ‘em
he left all the ladies a hot mess under
duress, dancing into the garden of

Earthly delight with lightning bugs
tangoing in the air and swimming in
the dark oceans of the night, panthers
wrapped around him in legs and torso

Comancho bought a white stallion, so
white it was blue, he rode west and
crossed rivers of blood, his heart was
poisoned, his horse and he became one.

(all work posted with the permission of the writer)

Some of the more memorable poems include “No Longer Here”, “Neptune”, “A Horseshoe and 7 Flies and A Bowl of Tiger Soup”,  “How to be a Small Press Success”, “A Gringo Taco”, “The Kangaroo Blues”, “Feeling  Bit Queered”, “Flashing Back”, “Oh Woof”, “Help Me Please, God”, “The Weasel and the Beaver”, “Make Your Move”, Guaymas”, “Van Gogh’s Spinach” and “Birdman from Albuquerque”.

This book is interestingly “dedicated to all jailbirds, shoeshine boys, bricklayers, hod carriers, wig slingers, war veterans, skeezers, the Red Hot Chile Peppers, plumbers without the crack, dog walkers, cat lovers, potters, painters, postal workers, and the bones of Charles Bukowski.”

The title poem is a tight, inventive piece with a catchy name. In the interview with Catfish McDaris which follows this review, he remarks about the poem, “I chose the title first. I just read it, I couldn’t remember it. That’s a fucking killer shape shifting poem, I love it. I’m always writing lines, I never know where they’ll go.”

27 Hammerheads Circling Ever Closer

Six mailboxes of rejects, a geisha
with crotch-less panties in a blue
silk stork robe, Confucius love,
the fear of God and love of sin

Don Quixote eating peyote, while
wolves, grizzlies, Tasmanian devils,
and cat-sized mosquitoes try to
drain your blood in murderous rage

She never knew I was a legerdemain
Charlatan holding hands with magic,
27 hammerheads circling ever closer.

The front cover is illustrated by the Swedish artist Janne Karlsson. In it, a McDaris look-alike smokes a cigarette and strides a hammerhead shark. He spills a cup of coffee as he sinks a large kitchen knife into the beast’s snout.  The back cover consists of two drawings by LaWanda Walters.

The best of the book’s eleven pieces of flash fiction tend to focus on McDaris’s experiences as an artilleryman in the U.S. Army in the early 1970s, in boot camp and later in West Germany after Nixon stopped sending troops to Vietnam. The stories “Dutch”, and most important of all, “Little Vietnam, Tigerland Fort Polk, Louisiana” are fascinating and candid accounts of army life. 

Also memorable is the flash fiction which morphs from realism to a more mystical realm. “The Beautiful Monster” and “Spaniard’s Odyssey” evoke journeys where anything is possible. Consider this last paragraph from “Spaniard’s Odyssey”:

“The maiden led Spaniard up a ladder and down another ladder into a round kiva. They became one, they were contented like timber rattlesnakes sunning themselves on a granite mountain ledge. They could hear grass and corn growing, rivers singing, the ghosts of the ancient ones laughing and chanting. Kokopelli’s flute whispered and echoed, a feather dancing in the air. When Spaniard awoke, his lady had vanished. He could hear a bear growling above the kiva. Instantaneously, Spaniard became a butterfly, he flew into the bear’s mouth. Before the bear could swallow him, he flew away.”

Despite the crafty imagination and ongoing experimentation in McDaris’s poetry and flash fiction, what sets this book aflame and distinguishes it from the typical tread mill of egotistical small press mediocrity, is the daring and downright crazy storylines in his extended fiction. The three extended short stories in the book “The Painter” (51 pages), “Cocaine Nipples” (26 pages) and “Naked Serial Killers in Volkswagens” (64 pages) are full-on original and amongst the maddest shit I have had the pleasure to read for years.

The most accessible of the three is “The Painter”, a road journey about an attractive male artist called Nicky Moon whose specialty is capturing women in his art in the throes of orgasm. This story unfolds in nine parts and is essentially a fuck feast told in the form of a tall story. It follows Nicky’s pursuit of art and pussy and reaches a surprising climax after he pops some peyote buttons and straddles the enchanting and mysterious Sky. 

The story “Cocaine Nipples” is far more experimental, particularly in its bizarre evolving narrative and use of open-ended structure. The story is a loosely connected series of vignettes which progress preposterously to an unimaginable conclusion- even for the writer. Words, ideas, plot lines slip, bend, contort in impossible angles. A late-blooming hunchbacked butterfly eventually emerges but you cannot recall how the story actually arrived there. 

How do you explain the story without spoilers? Let me just say that the plot includes a mass-murdering possessed mink stole, an artist who paints people eating finger licking chicken thighs and drumsticks, a bloke who sells squirrels to a tiger owner and a haemorrhoid patient who spack-fills his asshole with crunchy peanut butter and non-toxic glue to pay back a group of proctologists from hell.

The highlight of this book is certainly the short story “Naked Serial Killers in Volkswagens” which I recommend you begin this book with.  The unlikely title derives from the 8 chapter titles of the story which are named after American mass murderers- Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Aileen Wuornos, Gary Leon Ridgway, Jeffrey Dahmer, Velma Barfield, Ted Bundy and David Berkowitz. The baddies usually enter the story incidentally in the last paragraph or two of the chapter and don’t really affect the direction of the plot. 

The short story begins with Roxi and El Bagre eating spaghetti and sausages in Little Italy but after an old hippie boards their train, Bag drinks Southern Comfort and drops capsules of mescaline with the bloke, and the story, like Bag, enters a black vortex in which two ancient First Nations tribes are pitted againgst each other to fight to the death. The writing is ingenious, totally off-the-cuff and mad to the limit. Sometimes the point of view, storyline or characters disappear within a paragraph and morph into another arc. At one point in Chapter 8 the narrative even bursts into a series of dead-pan jokes. Here’s a lame one”:

“How about the drunk staggering into the Catholic church? He makes it into confessional and the priest says, tell me your sins my son. There is a long silence, the priest repeats himself to no avail. Finally he bangs on the wall and says you must confess. The drunk says, quit banging, there’s no toilet paper in here either.”

27 Hammerheads Circling Ever Closeris a highly inventive, bold collection of poetry, flash fiction and extended short stories by the Milwaukee based American writer Catfish McDaris. The anthology is a rich and diverse body of work and is hugely entertaining. You will find the best stuff in McDaris’s extended fiction. It may be uneven and outrageous but also insanely funny!

 Further Resources 

Marquette University- Special Collections and University Archives- Catfish McDaris, 1993-2013: http://www.marquette.edu/library/archives/Mss/CMC/CMC-series1-1.php



13 Questions of Catfish McDaris- Horror, Sleaze, Trash: http://www.horrorsleazetrash.com/interviews/13-questions-with-catfish-mcdaris/

Desolation Angeles- David Blaine Interviews Catfish McDaris: http://fitzroydreaming.blogspot.com/2011/12/david-blaine.html


INTERVIEW WITH CATFISH McDARIS ON 8 JUNE 2018

Why didn’t you seriously start writing until your 30s? What were the circumstances that prompted you to finally get it down on the page?

I dropped out of school in the tenth grade. I was already a journeyman bricklayer, so I had a trade. I got my GED High School Diploma in Boot Camp, then took classes in German and from the University of Maryland. I wrote long letters to family and friends while I was in the army in Germany; describing Europe and army life. For two and a half years I shot cannons and played war games. I also saw lots of castles and went to Amsterdam often. I raised lots of hell and spent nine months at a nudist colony, when I wasn’t playing soldier. I am autodidactic, I read everything. Classics, French, Russians, English, Americans, and Chinese. I needed to teach myself as much as I could, before putting ink to paper. In Milwaukee I went to poetry readings, I got on stage and felt like a rock star. I discovered the small press, it was still the SASE days, no internet. It was great fun; my wife wouldn’t agree or our daughter. Now I say I’m like an inside dog, I only do it on paper. If somebody paid me enough I’d hit the wood again. I’ve done some radio blog shows from home that were cool, one was with Lady Gaga’s violinist.

In David Blaine’s 2011 interview, you refer in detail to your early life before the post office and your marriage. How has this period helped to initiate and shape your writing?

David Blaine is a good writer, he met Carl Sandburg’s youngest daughter, Helga. The army taught me discipline, which is important to work at the Main Post Office in Milwaukee. Writing and reading provides sanity. Love of a good woman and a baby keeps your head straight and keeps you putting beans and tortillas on the table. As they say now, you got to man up.

Over how many years was the material in 27 Hammerheads written? Has much of this stuff been previously published?
 
Dr. Marc Pietrzykowski (PhD) is Pski’s Porch, he’s a professor near Buffalo, New York. He plays 5 or 6 instruments, with 5 string bass being his main stay. I sent him Sleeping with the Fish, a year before 27 Hammerheads Circling Ever Closer. Marc said he didn’t publish flash fiction, he preferred poetry or a novella. I told him give it a go. He wrote back, he said cool. We did that mixture of words. Then we did a tribute to Vincent van Gogh called Resurrection of a Sunflower, then we did 27 Hammerheads. Most of these books are new, old, and collected. If someone paid me or I have a contract on my words, I don’t give credit. The small press doesn’t get enough exposure as it is. If I ever hit the big time, I’ll have my agent deal with where, who, and how. I’m too fucking old for that shit anyway.
Titles come to me, I had a 10 poem chaps called: 72 Magpies Fucking Over Buffalo, also: 66 Lines on Your Soul. Something about numbers are a hook.

What editing process was involved in the publication of 27 Hammerheads? Did you simply send Pski’s Porch a shit-load of work and they published the lot or was the process more elongated and refined than that?

Marc and I get on the same page before layout. We are partners, but he’s still the boss. We trust each other and work well together. Mendes Biondo from Northern Italy has joined us since our Van Gogh book. We do Ramingo’s Porch. Our third issue I rounded up all my old Bukowski and Jack Micheline contacts. Your question was the process elongated and refined, reminded me of a guy hard up for a job. He sees an ad that says they are looking for a piss tester, so he goes and applies. When arrives he sees the ad is actually looking for a piss taster.

I note that you adopted the title of the book from the poem “27 Hammerheads Circling Ever Closer.” Can you explain why you chose this title apart from its intriguing name?

I chose the title first. I just read it, I couldn’t remember it. That’s a fucking killer shape shifting poem, I love it. I’m always writing lines, I never know where they’ll go. As soon as I contacted my Swedish maniac genius, Janne. He said Cat I have your cover and LaWanda did my rear cover. Intrigue is the hook.

‘The Spaniard’ features in many of your poems and flash fiction. Is he your alter-ego or simply an imaginary character to unleash your stories?

Years ago, a writer I respected and still do, Todd Moore told me I was writing “brag poetry and fiction” step away from your work, people will dig it more. Spaniard comes from the last town I lived in in New Mexico, Espanola. I used Quick from a childhood hero, Danny Quick. I used Nappy because of my nappy hair. El Bagre in Killers just means catfish in Spanish.

You gave up the booze many years ago but make many other drug references in your work- usually to ganga or peyote. Do you sometimes write under the influence?

14 years now with no ignorant oil. No other drugs except coffee and Xanax. Back in my hippie days, there is nothing I wouldn’t try, except datura stramonium (Jimson weed), after one time with that I almost lost my mind. I took lots of acid, peyote, sotol, mescaline with Huichols in Mexico.  I preferred psilocybin mushrooms from southeast Texas compared to all the psychedelics I experimented with. I loved weed smoking: bongs, blunts, chillums, fat boys, pinners. Lots of hash in Europe. I read the top 4 of 5 most powerful marijuana strains grow in Australia. My street drug days are long over. I do not recommend alcohol or drugs for anyone.

I really dig your novella Naked Serial Killers in Volkswagens. I was wondering if you could provide some background as to how you wrote it and how you eventually pieced it together?

Serial killers are a touchy subject in Milwaukee because of Jeffrey Dahmer. He picked up most of his 21 victims close to where I worked. He worked for Ambrosia Chocolate close to the Milwaukee Post Office. There were lots of gay bars and art galleries in the area. I read poetry with various musicians. I met Dahmer a few times and he bought chapbooks from me. I think he wanted to make a snack of me. The cops caught him finally. They came to my house and wanted to see if I was a cannibal too. They put Jeff in prison, he lasted 8 months before he was shanked. For those 8 months, we got 3 to 5 bomb threats a week, people trying to blow his ass up. I watched the movie, Monster about the woman serial killer and threw in Manson. There is so much evil in this world. It seemed like they all had to be naked and vilified driving VW’s.

You said in a previous interview that you write for fun and to entertain your audience. As you grow older, do you consider that you may have a higher purpose?

I never tried to make big money by writing. It’s still fun for me. I’ve won a few awards and been nominated for tons. I like meeting people from all over the world and with the web it is possible. I’m working on three novels all the time, while taking lots of detours.

You store 25 years of your published material in the Special Archives Collection at Marquette University in Milwaukee. Where would you suggest a future literary biographer to begin the exploration of your published work?

Go on the Marquette site and click on the series boxes, that will tell you about some of the places I’ve been published. They collect all current paper publications and electronic, so this interview will be in the archives. Just Google Catfish McDaris. I try never to search my name, it’s too ego inflating. Once I found a long interview I did with the beatnik, Charles Plymell. Some one had translated it into Esperanto. We didn’t get paid, since it has no money or country.

What on the cards next for you?

I’m still editor at Ramingo’s Porch and contributing odditer for Odd Books in Kolkata, India. I have a couple of broadsides coming soon, one from 48th St. Press and another from Holy & Intoxicated, I’ve made a few other scores. Thanks George, you run a tight ship.

Thanks for dropping by, Cat.


Bio: Catfish McDaris’ most infamous chapbook is Prying with Jack Micheline and Charles Bukowski. His best readings were in Paris at the Shakespeare and Co. Bookstore and with Jimmy"the ghost of Hendrix"Spencer in NYC on 42nd St. He’s done over 25 chaps in the last 25 years. He’s been in the New York Quarterly, Slipstream, Pearl, Main St. Rag, CafĂ© Review, Chiron Review, Zen Tattoo, Wormwood Review, Great Weather For Media, Silver Birch Press, and Graffiti and been nominated for 15 Pushcarts, Best of Net in 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016, and 2017 he won the Uprising Award in 1999, and won the Flash Fiction Contest judged by the U.S. Poet Laureate in 2009. He was in the Louisiana Review, George Mason Univ. Press, and New Coin from Rhodes Univ. in South Africa. He’s recently been translated into Spanish, French, Polish, Swedish, Arabic, Bengali, Mandarin, Yoruba, Tagalog, and Esperanto. His 25 years of published material is in the Special Archives Collection at Marquette Univ. in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Bukowski’s Indian pal Dave Reeve, editor of Zen Tattoo gave Catfish McDaris his name when he spoke of wanting to quit the post office and start a catfish farm. He spent a summer shark fishing in the Sea of Cortez, built adobe houses, tamed wild horses around the Grand Canyon, worked in a zinc smelter in the panhandle of Texas, and painted flag poles in the wind. He ended at the post office in Milwaukee. 


Wednesday, January 10, 2018

Book Review: Ryan Quinn Flanagan. Gangbangs and Other Mass Rallies (Pski’s Porch, 2017) 190 pages


Gangbangs and Other Mass Rallies is prolific Canadian writer Ryan Quinn Flanagan's latest stab at poetry. The book consists of 157 typically short, highly accessible small press poems. The collection is highly varied in subject matter and form and includes childhood anecdotes, personal reflections & opinions, confessional verse, portrait poems, list poems and cryptic “wandering” poems. In the underground tradition, there is undercurrent of violence, of dead-end jobs, of drug taking, of barely tolerable relationships in many of the poems.

Gangbangs is the thirty-eight year old Flanagan’s 24th stand-alone volume. In the interview which follows this review, Flanagan explains his usual intuitive method of putting a book together, “I have never really liked writing from a single unifying theme. That process seems limiting and constricting to me. I have tried it and don't find that process very enjoyable. I much prefer to sit down and write whatever comes to mind over a couple of months, and then look at what I have in its entirety and choose from there. A few loose themes or motifs often appear, but overall, the idea is to just let things flow and see what comes from that; to mine the subconscious and make sure the conscious just gets out of the way as much as possible.”

The cover is designed by Mark Pietrzykowski, the publisher of Pski’s Porch and appears to be of an African-American rally from the Depression era or perhaps earlier. Flanagan says of the cover, “Marc has access to this great mass of New York photo library archives which is fantastic to look through. For the front cover I knew what I wanted and began looking out old rallies in the archives. The images had to work with the title as well as placement of the title. I sent a mock up to Marc, and he had it done and back to me in an hour. It was perfect.”

The title poem itself is cheeky and perhaps an extended metaphor of Flanagan’s “singular purpose” to get the writing done at any personal cost. He says of the poem, “I do tend to like choosing a book title from one of the poem titles and "Gangbangs and Other Mass Rallies" seemed the most catchy.  Besides that, the poem conveyed some of the loose overarching themes I wanted to address such as individual alienation in a mass urban society.”

Gangbangs and Other Mass Rallies

There is nothing wrong
with large numbers
of people
working towards a singular
purpose
unless of course,

you are that singular
purpose.

And you find that-
with arched back
and ass
in the air-
you have
their undivided
attention.

(all poems in this review have been posted with the permission of the poet)

Flanagan writes honestly and urgently and with little revision. He is experienced and confident enough to be ruled by his instincts, “When the poems are written, that is the way they are. I never revise anything beyond simple spelling and grammar issues. I believe that when you write, what came from that day, that specific time and space is specific to that place and not to be polished up or amended later on when you find yourself in a completely different headspace. I don't want to censor anything I may say, so I just go with my first natural instinct and trust that.”

His poem “Distance Runners Miss the Point” appears to sum up Flanagan’s usual take on writing- be simple & direct & use your words economically:

Distance Runners Miss the Point

it is best
to say a lot
with very
little.

Most say little
with very little,
or even worse,
with a lot.

The more words
you need,
the more you have
failed.

Everything
simple and poignant
and direct.

Flanagan says of the poem, “It does sum up my personal view of writing pretty well. I do like to wander at times though, to play with words and images and strange ideas. But in the many quasi-narrative type poems my natural approach seems in keeping with the aesthetic laid out in "Distance Runners Miss the Point." Life is short and we're not here for long, so it's best to say what you mean and get on with things before you're dust and can't anymore. I find such a simplified approach is much more relatable to the reader as well.”

Upon closer examination, Flanagan appears to use two different styles in Gangbangs.  In the solid core of book, the poet uses well-honed conventional underground verse. The best amongst these include “Talking Shop”, “Sporting Goods”, “I Started Thinking of Jesus”, “Hoover”, “Attrition Monger” and “Burial Wrongs”. Alternatively, Flanagan has written about a dozen or so extended cryptic, associative poems which he calls “wandering poems”. The best amongst these is perhaps the five page “Long Lines at the Grocers so Cars can be loaded full as Sniper’s Rifles” but also impressive are poems such as, “Bloodlust & Chicken Wing”, “White Rhino”, “Aggressive Sales Tactics Like Swallowing a Shotgun for Breakfast”, “A Box of 100 Letter Sized File Folders” and “Punctured Lungs & Cryostasis”. The poems are usually set in public places like a bar, mall, park or public library or bathroom. What follows is a series of triggered thoughts and layered associations which jigsaw down the page and collect like a multiple car pile-up.

Flanagan says of this second, more complex style, “The wandering poems as I like to call them are probably the best example of how my brain works. They are non-linear, almost steams of conscious, but not quite. I honestly enjoy writing these types of poems more and more I find. I don't consciously set out to do so, but I find that more of them are appearing in newer works. I have always loved surrealist paintings and Dada and such and the wandering poems allow me to jump around a bit like a frog stretching its legs a little.”

The poem "Beds that are also Couches so the Efficiency Expert can Sleep at Night" illustrates this challenging homegrown style:

Beds that are also Couches
So the Efficiency Expert can Sleep
At Night

The water falls over your hands
like liquid spastics
into a sink basin beaten out
of the general bathroom nightmare
with lead pipes

and someone starts making homemade postcards
and someone else stands in front of mirrors
sucking it in, imaging the clumsy suction
of angled vacuum love

beds that are also couches
so the efficiency expert can sleep
at night

the factory is productivity
in human form,
hands after hands as though cloning
a massage parlour ten million times over
and setting it loose on the fed pablum
of bald-headed parking meters

and the paper towel from the roll
is a child leaving home

my hands sufficiently dry to make purchases
and gang signs in equal measure

the fly done up
and the street walker
as well

coin laundry malcontents
tumbling dry cycle out
of hell

and I have worked enough of the convenience racket
to know there is little convenience
in anything…

Time is wrong.
All the clocks have lied.

Flanagan says of the poem’s style, “It is more a comfortable free association as you go along, not locked in on anything specific, but rather gliding through loose sentiments and never forcing a cohesion. There often is a loose cohesion when you are done, but it is flexible and free and therefore often the most rewarding.”  

Another fascinating aspect I found about the book is although Flanagan is an apolitical writer, he often takes a back-handed swipe at the system through a series of the book’s poems. He is critical of factory closures due to outsourcing (“It came down from the top”), offshore dummy companies (“Dummy Companies, like Incorporating the Mentally Retarded”), the malleability of the law which favours the rich (“Body Condom”), crooked banks (“Usury”), shonky telemarketers (“Exit Strategy”) urban congestion & the pill-popping culture (“City, City”) and an array of other societal targets.

Asked about this anomaly, Flanagan replies, “I am not a political person in the least, so I approach such things in a rather detached way.  I see that things are fucked and the system is rigged, but I tend to avoid specifics and just comment on the overall process because that is what is most universal to all of our daily experiences, as opposed to some very specific griping which seems limiting to me in some way.  Plus, I just don't really care that much about the specific politics in all honesty.  What concerns me is the alienating system as a whole and its effect on everyday life.”

Flanagan’s poems “Party Politics”- his take on how house parties tend to splinter into three groups- “the women in the main room, the men in the kitchen,/ and the peripheries mingling about like spiders by the walls”, and more importantly, the satirical “You could Do Worse than Lawn Furniture”, clearly demonstrate his underlying disdain for all things political:

You Could Do Worse than Lawn Furniture

The thing I like about lawn furniture
is that it never talks politics.

It is goofy and ridiculous beyond belief,
But I know a world of people like that.

And they talk about politics day and night.
It hurts my head in a way the common headache
could only dream of.

And another thing about lawn furniture:
you can sit on its face and it never complains,
sometimes for many hours
until your ass grows
numb.

When people do that to other people,
someone always complains.

Usually someone else, not even directly involved,
who claims that act itself
IS political.

Gangbang and Other Mass Rallies is a clever, solid read full of interesting and diverse poems for the seasoned reader. Flanagan is a committed small press warrior who writes whatever he wants, when he wants and publishes his stuff on his own terms. Flanagan's work continues to evolve and his “wandering poems” in this collection add a new layer of complexity and maturity to his already substantial body of work.

Buy the book here:  http://www.pskisporch.com/?p=606

Bio:  Ryan Quinn Flanagan is a Canadian-born writer who presently resides in Elliot Lake, Ontario, Canada with his wife and many bears that rifle through his garbage.  His work can be found both in print and online in such places as: The New York Quarterly, Horror Sleaze Trash, Evergreen Review, Bold Monkey, Outlaw Poetry Network and Your One Phone Call

Some other links: 



INTERVIEW WITH RYAN QUINN FLANAGAN 8 JANUARY 2018

How long was Gangbangs and Other Mass Rallies in the making, including the writing and publication processes? How was Pski’s Porch to work with?

 About ten months in its entirety.  After the MS was written I sent off a sample to Marc Pietrzykowski at Pski's Porch.  I wanted to work with Pski's Porch because I really dug the work of previous authors under the Pski's Porch banner, namely Catfish McDaris and Steven Storrie.

When Marc got back to me, I built the full MS and did a quick spelling/grammar edit before shooting it off.  After that, the process was seamless.  Marc was totally top shelf and it was honestly the best experience I've ever had working with a publisher.  I wish it always went that smoothly when doing a book.  Pski's Porch is first-rate professional all the way!

You often nominate a title for your books from a poem in the collection. Why was Gangbangs and Other Mass Rallies chosen besides its catchy name?

I do tend to like choosing a book title from one of the poem titles and "Gangbangs and Other Mass Rallies" seemed the most catchy.  Besides that, the poem conveyed some of the loose overarching themes I wanted to address such as individual alienation in a mass urban society.  The only other poem title that was considered was "Feeding the Machine" because it both implied and dealt with the same issue, but that poem was more personal so we went with the more universal one to make things as relatable as possible to the reader. 

I note that Pski’s Porch designed the cover. Where was the photo taken from?

Marc has access to this great mass of New York photo library archives which is fantastic to look through.  For the front cover I knew want I wanted and began looking out old rallies in the archives.  The images had to work with the title as well as placement of the title. I sent a mock up to Marc, and he had it done and back to me in an hour.  It was perfect. Marc came up with the image on the back cover trying to capture the carnivalesque nature of the poems.  He explained that the image came from an old ritual which perfectly represented what I was trying to express. I really love that image on the back cover!



In some of your previous collections you don’t appear to have a dominant unifying thematic concern but rather structure the work through motifs. Is this the case of Gangbangs? Do you usually just write a shitload of poems and then offload them in book form?

I have never really liked writing from a single unifying theme. That process seems limiting and constricting to me.  I have tried it and don't find that process very enjoyable. I much prefer to sit down and write whatever comes to mind over a couple of months, and then look at what I have in its entirety and choose from there. A few loose themes or motifs often appear, but overall, the idea is to just let things flow and see what comes from that; to mine the subconscious and make sure the conscious just gets out of the way as much as possible.

When the poems are written, that is the way they are. I never revise anything beyond simple spelling and grammar issues. I believe that when you write, what came from that day, that specific time and space is specific to that place and not to be polished up or amended later on when you find yourself in a completely different headspace. I don't want to censor anything I may say, so I just go with my first natural instinct and trust that.

Does your poem “Distance Runners Miss the Point” sum up your view of writing?

It does sum up my personal view of writing pretty well. I do like to wander at times though, to play with words and images and strange ideas.  But in the many quasi-narrative type poems my natural approach seems in keeping with the aesthetic laid out in "Distance Runners Miss the Point." Life is short and we're not here for long, so it's best to say what you mean and get on with things before you're dust and can't anymore. I find such a simplified approach is much more relatable to the reader as well.

Your poetry is typically apolitical but in the collection you touch on how the system is rigged- the banks, the law, the news, how the economy & the environment are fucked, but you offer nothing specific, your criticisms are more of a hunch than a stance. Do the poems, such as, “You Could Do Worse than Lawn Furniture” and “Party Politics” best represent your views on political writing?

They do. I am not a political person in the least, so I approach such things in a rather detached way. I see that things are fucked and the system is rigged, but I tend to avoid specifics and just comment on the overall process because that is what is most universal to all of our daily experiences, as opposed to some very specific griping which seems limiting to me in some way. Plus, I just don't really care that much about the specific politics in all honesty.  What concerns me is the alienating system as a whole and its effect on everyday life. I've never voted in my life because I figure if a game is rigged don't play it. It's the same reason I never gamble when my wife and I go to Vegas. The house wins at your expense. I understand the set-up and choose not to partake. Many of my poems have no overtly political bent simply because other things seem to interest me more. 

Although some of your poems are set in Canada and you make numerous Canuck references, the poems are more about universal rather than Canadian concerns. (The tongue in cheek “Je me souviens” is perhaps an exception). Is this an accurate assessment of your writing?

I write in Canada, but do not consider myself a Canadian writer. Again, I find the geographical title limiting. I prefer to write in a more universal vein, whatever comes to mind, and not have it limited or constricted by such things as sex, religion, country, politics etc. Je me souviens is a playful exception.  The title comes from the official provincial motto of Quebec which translates to: I remember. I found that a simple and playful way to write a poem about when I was younger. It's a true story as well, which I always prefer.

Ryan, you appear to have two distinct styles of writing in Gangbangs. One is essentially confessional- usually first person narrative poems. Poems such as, “Hoover”, “Dykes on Bikes” and “Milking Your Prostate Is Not Like Milking a Cow” are easy to follow and somewhat simplistic, although they are often original in subject matter.

In other poems, perhaps a dozen or so, are more complex and often work through association and more intricate word play. I’m thinking of poems “Bloodlust & Chicken Wing”, “White Rhino”, “Aggressive Sales Tactics Like Swallowing a Shotgun for Breakfast”, “Punctured Lungs & Cryostasis”, “Long Lines at the Grocers so Cars can be Loaded full as Sniper’s Rifles” and the like.
I was just wondering how you developed this style and what you are doing, by say, taking us through the poem “Beds that are also Couches so the Efficiency Expert can Sleep at Night” (or any other you wish) by way of example?

I have found this as well. The more matter of fact confessional type poems are much more straight forward, and often the backbone of the book. The other intricate word play or wandering poems as I like to call them are probably the best example of how my brain works. They are non-linear, almost steams of conscious, but not quite. I honestly enjoy writing these types of poems more and more I find. I don't consciously set out to do so, but I find that more of them are appearing in newer works. I have always loved surrealist paintings and Dada and such and the wandering poems allow me to jump around a bit like a frog stretching its legs a little. "Beds that are also Couches so the Efficiency Expert can Sleep at Night" is a perfect example of this.  It is more a comfortable free association as you go along, not locked in on anything specific, but rather gliding through loose sentiments and never forcing a cohesion. There often is a loose cohesion when you are done, but it is flexible and free and therefore often the most rewarding.  

Have you come across any new writers over the last year who you have immensely enjoyed?

Oh plenty! Many of them seem to be centred around the Kansas City area for whatever reason. Other I have read though presses I like such as Pski's Porch. As well as a few Aussies in your neck of the woods like Brenton Booth and Ben John Smith.There are many cool writers out there today doing their thing.

What’s next on your plate?

It should be a busy upcoming year.  I have a chapbook coming out with Alien Buddha Press in April called "Hello Brinkmanship," and another with Clare Songbirds out of New York called "these things you see." There is also full-length collections forthcoming with Weasel Press, Leaf Garden Press, Marathon Books, and White Gorilla Press. I'm also slated to do broadsides and a split chap with John D. Robinson who is a very cool writer. And hopefully working on something again soon with Pski's Porch!

Thanks George!!


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